Comments on: the 12 steps, buddhist fashion http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/ making lives better, making better lives Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: qapla http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-806491 qapla Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:07:35 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-806491 Kevin Griffin Griffin is a Buddhist dharma leader and writer. He's the author of "One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps" http://being.publicradio.org/programs/recovery/ __________ Episode 46 :: Paul Saintilan :: Buddhist Recovery Network http://www.thesecularbuddhist.com/episode_046.php Kevin Griffin
Griffin is a Buddhist dharma leader and writer. He’s the author of “One Breath at a Time: Buddhism and the Twelve Steps”

http://being.publicradio.org/programs/recovery/

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Episode 46 :: Paul Saintilan :: Buddhist Recovery Network

http://www.thesecularbuddhist.com/episode_046.php

]]> By: kelly m http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-688642 kelly m Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:10:01 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-688642 i really think you guys are over analyzing the religious aspect of it and she is plainly just trying to introduce a more open minded way of looking at the steps in case somebody was having trouble. dont take your religion so seriously i really think you guys are over analyzing the religious aspect of it and she is plainly just trying to introduce a more open minded way of looking at the steps in case somebody was having trouble. dont take your religion so seriously

]]> By: michael http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-653955 michael Tue, 12 May 2009 03:23:06 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-653955 My higher power is Christ because I think his ACTIONS are his indestructible, eternal essence--and I've found in those actions everything that is in all the various masters from various traditions. My recovery has a strong "Zen" flavor, albeit unintentionally, but it has been noted by various people in my support network. My "Zen" take on "Buddhist recovery" is this: JUST DO the steps (think Dogen) and don't try to Buddhist-ize them. People's problem with a "higher power" isn't because they're Buddhist...it's because they're self-willed addicts. (Did you hear the 'ka!' ?) My higher power is Christ because I think his ACTIONS are his indestructible, eternal essence–and I’ve found in those actions everything that is in all the various masters from various traditions. My recovery has a strong “Zen” flavor, albeit unintentionally, but it has been noted by various people in my support network. My “Zen” take on “Buddhist recovery” is this: JUST DO the steps (think Dogen) and don’t try to Buddhist-ize them. People’s problem with a “higher power” isn’t because they’re Buddhist…it’s because they’re self-willed addicts. (Did you hear the ‘ka!’ ?)

]]> By: Delellis http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-586404 Delellis Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:28:23 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-586404 thanks for the info.. i think the 12 steps of liberation are pure ethics... and some ways to live in peace with the others... dino thanks for the info.. i think the 12 steps of liberation are pure ethics… and some ways to live in peace with the others…

dino

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-553787 sarah luczaj Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:49:36 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-553787 mmmm, i see what you mean. i still think its not appropriate for everyone, though, particulary abuse survivors who are too used to having a sick higher power in control...will check out the other posts with pleasure! mmmm, i see what you mean.

i still think its not appropriate for everyone, though, particulary abuse survivors who are too used to having a sick higher power in control…will check out the other posts with pleasure!

]]> By: isabella mori http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-553786 isabella mori Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:40:56 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-553786 thanks for this comment, sarah! when you have some time (i.e. when your toddler allows you :) i'd be very interested in your thoughts on my other posts on the 12 steps, as well. (you can find them in the categories on the left) the question of power in the 12 steps is fascinating. i, too, took a long time to warm up to the idea of a higher power, for exactly the same reason. there's actually a similarity with buddhism. just as buddhism sometimes looks as if it teaches disinterest (when it really is non-attachment, something very different), it can look like the 12 steps teach "victimy" powerlessness when really they teach responsibility through realizing the extent of our personal power. <em>isabella mori's last blog post..<a href='http://www.moritherapy.org/article/stand-up-against-poverty/'>stand up against poverty</a></em> thanks for this comment, sarah! when you have some time (i.e. when your toddler allows you :) i’d be very interested in your thoughts on my other posts on the 12 steps, as well. (you can find them in the categories on the left)

the question of power in the 12 steps is fascinating. i, too, took a long time to warm up to the idea of a higher power, for exactly the same reason.

there’s actually a similarity with buddhism. just as buddhism sometimes looks as if it teaches disinterest (when it really is non-attachment, something very different), it can look like the 12 steps teach “victimy” powerlessness when really they teach responsibility through realizing the extent of our personal power.

isabella mori’s last blog post..stand up against poverty

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-553750 sarah luczaj Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:33:34 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-553750 i meant 'giving up their own hard won power' - never try and write with a writhing toddler on your knee! i meant ‘giving up their own hard won power’ – never try and write with a writhing toddler on your knee!

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/comment-page-1/#comment-553749 sarah luczaj Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:32:33 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/the-12-steps-buddhist-fashion/#comment-553749 thanks for this - it came to me at a nice organic moment too! it's the higher power in the 'classic' 12 steps which i find to be problematic sometimes. particularly for abuse survivors and people who just do not feel that giving up own their hard won power to a "higher" power is the right thing to do... this version, in my view, neatly removes this aspect while leaving all the useful stuff intact... thanks for this – it came to me at a nice organic moment too!

it’s the higher power in the ‘classic’ 12 steps which i find to be problematic sometimes. particularly for abuse survivors and people who just do not feel that giving up own their hard won power to a “higher” power is the right thing to do…

this version, in my view, neatly removes this aspect while leaving all the useful stuff intact…

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