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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-712775</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debbie, when this happens to me it means that I&#039;m embarassed - though I may not realise it at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debbie, when this happens to me it means that I&#8217;m embarassed &#8211; though I may not realise it at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-712762</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has someone had the experience of ears getting really hot  when you witness to someone and do you have any idea of what it might mean in a spiritual sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has someone had the experience of ears getting really hot  when you witness to someone and do you have any idea of what it might mean in a spiritual sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pannell</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-689057</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most spiritual experience for me is sitting beside a river or fire, I think the movement of the water and the sound it makes puts me into a trance like state... any natural sounds seem to have this effect, even a loud river is totally relaxing and just seems to blend into the background, i think we have evolved with to want to hear these sounds as rivers and open fires would have been a neccisity for our ancestors and I feel a deep conection to  the past whenever I hear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most spiritual experience for me is sitting beside a river or fire, I think the movement of the water and the sound it makes puts me into a trance like state&#8230; any natural sounds seem to have this effect, even a loud river is totally relaxing and just seems to blend into the background, i think we have evolved with to want to hear these sounds as rivers and open fires would have been a neccisity for our ancestors and I feel a deep conection to  the past whenever I hear them.</p>
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		<title>By: ClinicallyClueless</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-687130</link>
		<dc:creator>ClinicallyClueless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what both Pete and Evan has said. And, I believe in what Pete said which to me is the &quot;Holy Spirit.&quot;  That enables us to experience God here in more tangible and sometimes unbelievable ways.

I realize that I don&#039;t have difficulty talking to other Christians, but those who are not sometimes think that I am &quot;crazy.&quot;  But, for me, it is quite an intimate area to share with others because my relationship with God is one of intimacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what both Pete and Evan has said. And, I believe in what Pete said which to me is the &#8220;Holy Spirit.&#8221;  That enables us to experience God here in more tangible and sometimes unbelievable ways.</p>
<p>I realize that I don&#8217;t have difficulty talking to other Christians, but those who are not sometimes think that I am &#8220;crazy.&#8221;  But, for me, it is quite an intimate area to share with others because my relationship with God is one of intimacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-687101</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Isabella, I like the point Pete raised about the relationship of mind and spirit.  These are often treated as separate.  But if mind can limit spirit what would it mean for mind to assist spirit?

I think you are absolutely right that spiritual experiences can look odd.  The spiritual is usually not our common experience - and so it is unusual in that way.  I also think that because we don&#039;t talk about it much it looks odder than it need to.  If we talked about our spiritual experience more then we would at least know that others have this experience too and so we wouldn&#039;t feel it so odd.  I think you are right about us keeping things in the closet leading to our minds telling us that &#039;no-one will understand&#039;.

I also agree very much that no-one&#039;s experience is more spiritual (or stranger or weirder) than anyone else&#039;s.

I&#039;m really enjoying this discussion.
.-= Evan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wellbeingandhealthnet/~3/caZdzlzZJRQ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In Praise of Contentment (critiquing ambition)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Isabella, I like the point Pete raised about the relationship of mind and spirit.  These are often treated as separate.  But if mind can limit spirit what would it mean for mind to assist spirit?</p>
<p>I think you are absolutely right that spiritual experiences can look odd.  The spiritual is usually not our common experience &#8211; and so it is unusual in that way.  I also think that because we don&#8217;t talk about it much it looks odder than it need to.  If we talked about our spiritual experience more then we would at least know that others have this experience too and so we wouldn&#8217;t feel it so odd.  I think you are right about us keeping things in the closet leading to our minds telling us that &#8216;no-one will understand&#8217;.</p>
<p>I also agree very much that no-one&#8217;s experience is more spiritual (or stranger or weirder) than anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this discussion.<br />
.-= Evan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wellbeingandhealthnet/~3/caZdzlzZJRQ/" rel="nofollow">In Praise of Contentment (critiquing ambition)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/comment-page-1/#comment-687099</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we could say that evan&#039;s and my whole point is that spiritual experiences can look odd. 

there are so many things we can learn as we talk about these experiences more frequently and more openly.  one of them is that we can learn that whatever we hear from our brothers or sisters, it is what it is.  my experience isn&#039;t weirder, odder or &quot;more spiritual&quot; than yours and vice versa.  

one of the things that happens as we keep things in the closet, is that our minds start telling us unhelpful things.  like &quot;no-one will understand this&quot;.
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talking about spiritual experiences&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we could say that evan&#8217;s and my whole point is that spiritual experiences can look odd. </p>
<p>there are so many things we can learn as we talk about these experiences more frequently and more openly.  one of them is that we can learn that whatever we hear from our brothers or sisters, it is what it is.  my experience isn&#8217;t weirder, odder or &#8220;more spiritual&#8221; than yours and vice versa.  </p>
<p>one of the things that happens as we keep things in the closet, is that our minds start telling us unhelpful things.  like &#8220;no-one will understand this&#8221;.<br />
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/" rel="nofollow">talking about spiritual experiences</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isabella, my thoughts and experiences are probably a little bit odd to most people. My belief is that we were created by God. Not only by God but also in his image. God in his puriest form is Spirit. Being created in his image makes a part of us  spirit.My belief is that is what allows us to have a spiritual connection with Him. This spirit also connects us with all things. Sometimes it is hard to beleive that God is everywhere but he is . We can look at a beautiful flower or a snow capped mountain and have a sense of the presence of God. There is nothing wrong with that, it is a good thing. We can also experience God in a more intimate way as in His reveiling of himself to us . That is the kind of thing I think of as an spiritual experience.
.-= Pete&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pete-petesblabber.blogspot.com/2010/01/here-i-sit-going-through-motions.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isabella, my thoughts and experiences are probably a little bit odd to most people. My belief is that we were created by God. Not only by God but also in his image. God in his puriest form is Spirit. Being created in his image makes a part of us  spirit.My belief is that is what allows us to have a spiritual connection with Him. This spirit also connects us with all things. Sometimes it is hard to beleive that God is everywhere but he is . We can look at a beautiful flower or a snow capped mountain and have a sense of the presence of God. There is nothing wrong with that, it is a good thing. We can also experience God in a more intimate way as in His reveiling of himself to us . That is the kind of thing I think of as an spiritual experience.<br />
.-= Pete&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://pete-petesblabber.blogspot.com/2010/01/here-i-sit-going-through-motions.html" rel="nofollow"></a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete, by &quot;story&quot; i simply mean the recounting of an experience.  what i wrote is a story, too.

there&#039;s something interesting about this last sentence &quot;we limit ourselves and we limit god with our beliefs.&quot;  on a superficial level that is totally obvious, e.g. if i believe that god is nothing but the guy in the sky who counts my sins, then that&#039;s a limiting belief.  but it sounds like you connect that to &quot;spirit&quot;.  can you tell us a bit more about that?
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talking about spiritual experiences&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete, by &#8220;story&#8221; i simply mean the recounting of an experience.  what i wrote is a story, too.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s something interesting about this last sentence &#8220;we limit ourselves and we limit god with our beliefs.&#8221;  on a superficial level that is totally obvious, e.g. if i believe that god is nothing but the guy in the sky who counts my sins, then that&#8217;s a limiting belief.  but it sounds like you connect that to &#8220;spirit&#8221;.  can you tell us a bit more about that?<br />
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/" rel="nofollow">talking about spiritual experiences</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are much more than stories, although to many they would seem to be just that. Our spiritual experiences can differ on a wide range. To even have a spiritual event means there is a part of us that can connect and does connect to something higher than ourself. Our true selfs, our being is spirit. We limit ourself and we limit God by our beliefs.
.-= Pete&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pete-petesblabber.blogspot.com/2010/01/here-i-sit-going-through-motions.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are much more than stories, although to many they would seem to be just that. Our spiritual experiences can differ on a wide range. To even have a spiritual event means there is a part of us that can connect and does connect to something higher than ourself. Our true selfs, our being is spirit. We limit ourself and we limit God by our beliefs.<br />
.-= Pete&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://pete-petesblabber.blogspot.com/2010/01/here-i-sit-going-through-motions.html" rel="nofollow"></a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the stories so far.  what was it like telling them?

sandy, i can relate to meandering old city streets.  have wonderful memories of strolling through new orleans.  i&#039;m going to go to germany in a few weeks, and will think of you when i walk through those old streets!
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talking about spiritual experiences&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the stories so far.  what was it like telling them?</p>
<p>sandy, i can relate to meandering old city streets.  have wonderful memories of strolling through new orleans.  i&#8217;m going to go to germany in a few weeks, and will think of you when i walk through those old streets!<br />
.-= isabella mori (@moritherapy)&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/talking-about-spiritual-experiences/" rel="nofollow">talking about spiritual experiences</a> =-.</p>
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