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	<title>Comments on: robert dziekanski&#8217;s death: excessive force or excited delirium?</title>
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		<title>By: Steve &#124; Toronto Condos</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/robert-dziekanskis-death-excessive-force-or-excited-delirium/comment-page-1/#comment-651439</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve &#124; Toronto Condos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this post remind me that sad incident once again. Although Canada is supposed to be more civilized and developed part of this world but it is difficult to handle human brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this post remind me that sad incident once again. Although Canada is supposed to be more civilized and developed part of this world but it is difficult to handle human brains.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@counselling seattle - i have never been a police officer but i have worked in pretty volatile inner city areas and know there are a wide variety of ways to deal with a person who seems agitated.  

@therapy new york - a year later now,  i&#039;ve been told that vancouver airport is now &quot;armed&quot; with many, many more languages.  from what i understand, that is a direct outcome from this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@counselling seattle &#8211; i have never been a police officer but i have worked in pretty volatile inner city areas and know there are a wide variety of ways to deal with a person who seems agitated.  </p>
<p>@therapy new york &#8211; a year later now,  i&#8217;ve been told that vancouver airport is now &#8220;armed&#8221; with many, many more languages.  from what i understand, that is a direct outcome from this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Therapy New York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therapy New York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man was speaking another language then the police should have brought in somebody that spoke the guy language. It seems that the police could have isolated or corner the guy so he didn’t hurt anyone until they could get him help. It’s kind of hard for the guy to comply if he doesn’t know the language that the police are speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man was speaking another language then the police should have brought in somebody that spoke the guy language. It seems that the police could have isolated or corner the guy so he didn’t hurt anyone until they could get him help. It’s kind of hard for the guy to comply if he doesn’t know the language that the police are speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Counseling Seattle</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/robert-dziekanskis-death-excessive-force-or-excited-delirium/comment-page-1/#comment-485454</link>
		<dc:creator>Counseling Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always easy to judge on hindsight whether police has used excessive force.   Stand in the shoes of a police officer when saving what he perceived as imminent danger, and you may understand why he made the final judgment to use great or even lethal force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always easy to judge on hindsight whether police has used excessive force.   Stand in the shoes of a police officer when saving what he perceived as imminent danger, and you may understand why he made the final judgment to use great or even lethal force.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/robert-dziekanskis-death-excessive-force-or-excited-delirium/comment-page-1/#comment-443098</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your comments.  

here are more news about the story: http://tinyurl.com/6mwfqb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your comments.  </p>
<p>here are more news about the story: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6mwfqb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6mwfqb</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vending Man</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/robert-dziekanskis-death-excessive-force-or-excited-delirium/comment-page-1/#comment-441066</link>
		<dc:creator>Vending Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, police sometimes need to assess the situation from an outside point of view.  Yelling at someone who has a mental issue isn&#039;t going to help the situation and might make it worse.

&lt;em&gt;Vending Man&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.crossvending.com/blog/spokane-vending-machine-business-for-sale&#039;&gt;Spokane Vending Machine Business for Sale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, police sometimes need to assess the situation from an outside point of view.  Yelling at someone who has a mental issue isn&#8217;t going to help the situation and might make it worse.</p>
<p><em>Vending Man&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.crossvending.com/blog/spokane-vending-machine-business-for-sale'>Spokane Vending Machine Business for Sale</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very deep thoughtful post, WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very deep thoughtful post, WOW!</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;he was killed by  process&quot; - what an insightful observation.  thanks, robert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he was killed by  process&#8221; &#8211; what an insightful observation.  thanks, robert.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert (Bob) Gagnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert (Bob) Gagnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear isabelle,

The way I see it this unfortunate man was killed by a process that we have let get into the hands of heartless bureaucrats, who have little imagination and most of all little sense of responsibility for their actions, or lack of action. There were several breakdowns in the processing of this non-English speaker in Vancouver Airport.

To begin with he must have shown signs of agitation on the plane and then going through Canada Immigration at YVR. Why was this simple fact not recognized by anybody responsible right away and within the first hour of his getting off the plane and onto YVR premises? 

Our bureaucrats who are in charge of the no-contact zone in YVR between exiting the plane and going into the arrivals area took no real responsibility for this unfortunate man for 10 hours.

Then there is the case of how YVR officials dealt with inquiries by his mother during the six hours that she was in YVR waiting and looking for her son! Once again the issue of the complete blackout that has been allowed to exist in the process between exiting the plane and getting to the arrivals area caused this man&#039;s only contact in Canada to turn away from the airport while her son experienced more and more isolation and disorientation with a process that completely failed him when he was most in need of simple human decency and understanding.

Is there no person in charge of what happens to anybody in that process? Is it really necessary that people who have exited a plane at YVR and who are being processed by Immigration Canada and Customs Canada must be held in a virtual no-mans land with no possibility of communications to the outside or communications into it?

Given the almost completely negative record,  over the last few years, of handling people exhibiting extraordinary behaviours in Vancouver it seems that we all condone heartless and brutal handling by agents responsible for &quot;peace and protection&quot;. 

We includes newspapers, TV, political leaders, and all of us apparently normal people who know how to navigate our way from the exit of a plane arriving at YVR to the arrivals area, without the threat of taser assault, forced asphixiation, or delirium

Mr. Dziekanski was killed by a process handled by unfeeling and robotic bureaucrats, no matter the direct or indirect causes of his final death struggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear isabelle,</p>
<p>The way I see it this unfortunate man was killed by a process that we have let get into the hands of heartless bureaucrats, who have little imagination and most of all little sense of responsibility for their actions, or lack of action. There were several breakdowns in the processing of this non-English speaker in Vancouver Airport.</p>
<p>To begin with he must have shown signs of agitation on the plane and then going through Canada Immigration at YVR. Why was this simple fact not recognized by anybody responsible right away and within the first hour of his getting off the plane and onto YVR premises? </p>
<p>Our bureaucrats who are in charge of the no-contact zone in YVR between exiting the plane and going into the arrivals area took no real responsibility for this unfortunate man for 10 hours.</p>
<p>Then there is the case of how YVR officials dealt with inquiries by his mother during the six hours that she was in YVR waiting and looking for her son! Once again the issue of the complete blackout that has been allowed to exist in the process between exiting the plane and getting to the arrivals area caused this man&#8217;s only contact in Canada to turn away from the airport while her son experienced more and more isolation and disorientation with a process that completely failed him when he was most in need of simple human decency and understanding.</p>
<p>Is there no person in charge of what happens to anybody in that process? Is it really necessary that people who have exited a plane at YVR and who are being processed by Immigration Canada and Customs Canada must be held in a virtual no-mans land with no possibility of communications to the outside or communications into it?</p>
<p>Given the almost completely negative record,  over the last few years, of handling people exhibiting extraordinary behaviours in Vancouver it seems that we all condone heartless and brutal handling by agents responsible for &#8220;peace and protection&#8221;. </p>
<p>We includes newspapers, TV, political leaders, and all of us apparently normal people who know how to navigate our way from the exit of a plane arriving at YVR to the arrivals area, without the threat of taser assault, forced asphixiation, or delirium</p>
<p>Mr. Dziekanski was killed by a process handled by unfeeling and robotic bureaucrats, no matter the direct or indirect causes of his final death struggle.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That video makes me very angry.  There was a similar death in Halifax a few days ago of a man who died after he was tazered in police custody.

I saw on the CBC the other day that Canada is jailing more and more people who suffer from mental illness.  The system is failing to help these people, and using made-up mental conditions to justify police violence is only going to make things worse.  The police have a responsibility to serve and protect all citizens, not just those ones who do not suffer from mental illness. 

Anyway, the guy was running around Vancouver Airport for hours.  Most major airports have specialists trained in managing distraught passengers, and they have multi-lingual capabilities.  I&#039;m with you, Isabella.  Why did the GVAA send in armed mounties instead of a social worker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That video makes me very angry.  There was a similar death in Halifax a few days ago of a man who died after he was tazered in police custody.</p>
<p>I saw on the CBC the other day that Canada is jailing more and more people who suffer from mental illness.  The system is failing to help these people, and using made-up mental conditions to justify police violence is only going to make things worse.  The police have a responsibility to serve and protect all citizens, not just those ones who do not suffer from mental illness. </p>
<p>Anyway, the guy was running around Vancouver Airport for hours.  Most major airports have specialists trained in managing distraught passengers, and they have multi-lingual capabilities.  I&#8217;m with you, Isabella.  Why did the GVAA send in armed mounties instead of a social worker?</p>
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