Comments on: more on the 12 steps: step 5 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/ making lives better, making better lives Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Emergent Culture – Know Your Brain: Make your Mind your Own http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-662653 Emergent Culture – Know Your Brain: Make your Mind your Own Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:03:07 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-662653 [...] more on the 12 steps: step 5 12 step discussion addictions spirituality AA alcoholics anonymous confession step 5 alcoholics anonymous OA addicted recovery recovering alcoholics addicts [...] [...] more on the 12 steps: step 5 12 step discussion addictions spirituality AA alcoholics anonymous confession step 5 alcoholics anonymous OA addicted recovery recovering alcoholics addicts [...]

]]> By: Mini Stepper http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-506997 Mini Stepper Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:42:20 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-506997 This is what extremely good at work. I find your step 4 the most significant for the enrollment of people, to come out of past and accept the present. My subordinator have get this post for many of my friends to help them to see whats if 12-step books can do ? This is some thing great for you to see :- http://twelvess.blogspot.com/ :) http://www.ministepper.co.uk/ (:) Really, confession works but only when we do not repeat same thing again, i.e. to promise self to be true and kind. Then only faith responses, this is my personal experiences. ! This is what extremely good at work. I find your step 4 the most significant for the enrollment of people, to come out of past and accept the present. My subordinator have get this post for many of my friends to help them to see whats if 12-step books can do ? This is some thing great for you to see :-

http://twelvess.blogspot.com/ :)
http://www.ministepper.co.uk/

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Really, confession works but only when we do not repeat same thing again, i.e. to promise self to be true and kind. Then only faith responses, this is my personal experiences. !

]]> By: isabella mori http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-479745 isabella mori Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:27:41 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-479745 thanks for all your comments, people! @raul - cold sores representing repressed secrets: interesting. never heard that one but i believe it is well documented that cold sores can come on with stress, so quite likely there is a connection ... @eeabee "sharing combats shame" - a great way of putting it! @bluerose - thanks for visiting! of course you can put up a link to here. bloggers love links :) @andrew - confession is such a powerful tool. how beautiful that you have a faith that helps you feel forgiveness! thanks for all your comments, people!

@raul – cold sores representing repressed secrets: interesting. never heard that one but i believe it is well documented that cold sores can come on with stress, so quite likely there is a connection …

@eeabee “sharing combats shame” – a great way of putting it!

@bluerose – thanks for visiting! of course you can put up a link to here. bloggers love links :)

@andrew – confession is such a powerful tool. how beautiful that you have a faith that helps you feel forgiveness!

]]> By: bluerose http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-479690 bluerose Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:02:30 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-479690 I share a blog with a friend where we write our own personal experiences with working the twelve steps, and I was wondering if you'd mind if I put a link in our side bar to your blog? This is good information. <em>bluerose's last blog post..<a href='http://twelvess.blogspot.com/2008/06/grateful.html'>Grateful</a></em> I share a blog with a friend where we write our own personal experiences with working the twelve steps, and I was wondering if you’d mind if I put a link in our side bar to your blog? This is good information.

bluerose’s last blog post..Grateful

]]> By: eeabee http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-465619 eeabee Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:51:50 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-465619 I just did some of this (literally 5th step work) the other day, and this time and the previous times it's amazed me how lightening it is, because the experience of sharing combats shame. I always feel much less shame and more part of the human family when I do this kind of work. Also, for me and I think many others, it helps to have another perspective because my self appraisal is always so much nastier than anyone else's. I think the connections between the therapy and recovery process are really interesting--thanks for writing about this. I just did some of this (literally 5th step work) the other day, and this time and the previous times it’s amazed me how lightening it is, because the experience of sharing combats shame.

I always feel much less shame and more part of the human family when I do this kind of work. Also, for me and I think many others, it helps to have another perspective because my self appraisal is always so much nastier than anyone else’s.

I think the connections between the therapy and recovery process are really interesting–thanks for writing about this.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-465013 Andrew Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:46:55 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-465013 Dear Isabella, As a Christian, I believe in god, meaning literally, the Christian god. The great thing I feel about making open (and sorrowful) confessions about my shortcommings to him, is that I believe that I believe that he fully forgives all my shortcomings and sins through the death of Jesus Christ on the cross. (I'm not trying to bible bash here - just to say that this is what I believe) Although I do not believe that my own shortcommings and sins are OK, I believe that when I confess them to the lord, that I am fully forgiven and can be fully freed of any guilt or shame I had for my shortcomings. In terms of sharing baggage with others, I find that when I share problems and frustrations with trustworthy friends, I feel like the problem is out in the open and I am no longer weighed down by hiding the problem. Cheers Andrew <em>Andrew's last blog post..<a href='http://www.goodhonestdollar.com/corporate-social-responsibility-part-2-first-objection-to-csr'>Corporate Social Responsibility Part 2 - First objection to CSR</a></em> Dear Isabella,

As a Christian, I believe in god, meaning literally, the Christian god.

The great thing I feel about making open (and sorrowful) confessions about my shortcommings to him, is that I believe that I believe that he fully forgives all my shortcomings and sins through the death of Jesus Christ on the cross.

(I’m not trying to bible bash here – just to say that this is what I believe)

Although I do not believe that my own shortcommings and sins are OK, I believe that when I confess them to the lord, that I am fully forgiven and can be fully freed of any guilt or shame I had for my shortcomings.

In terms of sharing baggage with others, I find that when I share problems and frustrations with trustworthy friends, I feel like the problem is out in the open and I am no longer weighed down by hiding the problem.

Cheers

Andrew

Andrew’s last blog post..Corporate Social Responsibility Part 2 – First objection to CSR

]]> By: Raul http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/comment-page-1/#comment-464712 Raul Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:29:06 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/more-on-the-12-steps-step-5/#comment-464712 Somebody told me that canker sores (or cold sores) were secrets we were dying to tell yet we kept bottled inside. Hence, confessing is a powerful release tool :) Thanks for this Isabella! <em>Raul's last blog post..<a href='http://hummingbird604.com/2008/06/08/restaurant-review-the-rugby-beach-club-grille/'>Restaurant review - The Rugby Beach Club Grille</a></em> Somebody told me that canker sores (or cold sores) were secrets we were dying to tell yet we kept bottled inside. Hence, confessing is a powerful release tool :)

Thanks for this Isabella!

Raul’s last blog post..Restaurant review – The Rugby Beach Club Grille

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