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		<title>By: food addiction: another case of &#8220;duh&#8221; science &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>food addiction: another case of &#8220;duh&#8221; science &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ok, this might be a case of bad reporting again. i just hope that the good doctors didn’t say this. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ok, this might be a case of bad reporting again. i just hope that the good doctors didn’t say this. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: on blogging and research &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-169271</link>
		<dc:creator>on blogging and research &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as this blogger, even though i point out that this project is not very scientific, i feel my academic training and passion for research shine through. so i just cannot / don’t want to bring myself to write a little piece that just glosses over and perhaps distorts all the interesting and useful information contained in the raw data – after all, only a short while ago, i criticized exactly that! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as this blogger, even though i point out that this project is not very scientific, i feel my academic training and passion for research shine through. so i just cannot / don’t want to bring myself to write a little piece that just glosses over and perhaps distorts all the interesting and useful information contained in the raw data – after all, only a short while ago, i criticized exactly that! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-164126</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patricia, your comment reminds me of what the buddha said, &quot;don&#039;t believe me, find out for yourself.&quot;  best case scenario, one wouldn&#039;t believe them - one would read them and draw their own conclusions from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patricia, your comment reminds me of what the buddha said, &#8220;don&#8217;t believe me, find out for yourself.&#8221;  best case scenario, one wouldn&#8217;t believe them &#8211; one would read them and draw their own conclusions from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworker</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-159310</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia - Spiritual Journey Of A Lightworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article.  I have decided that I am not believing any studies.  If you look, you can find a study done by someone to suit whatever fact you are trying to prove or disprove.  I especially, don&#039;t believe studies that are being funded by drug companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article.  I have decided that I am not believing any studies.  If you look, you can find a study done by someone to suit whatever fact you are trying to prove or disprove.  I especially, don&#8217;t believe studies that are being funded by drug companies.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-158294</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the connection between mindfulness and meditation is quite complex.  not everyone would say that meditation is a spiritual pursuit.  some people see mindfulness as mostly embedded in the zen and/or vipassana traditions. 

i have spent many years studying and some years teaching meditation and am still confounded as to the common thread.  it has something to do with intent and focus, that i know.  beyond that ... 

will go over to your site and see what you&#039;re up to there, and of course would be happy to have you use this article as a springboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the connection between mindfulness and meditation is quite complex.  not everyone would say that meditation is a spiritual pursuit.  some people see mindfulness as mostly embedded in the zen and/or vipassana traditions. </p>
<p>i have spent many years studying and some years teaching meditation and am still confounded as to the common thread.  it has something to do with intent and focus, that i know.  beyond that &#8230; </p>
<p>will go over to your site and see what you&#8217;re up to there, and of course would be happy to have you use this article as a springboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Nneka</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-158191</link>
		<dc:creator>Nneka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across your article in the Carnival of Truth. Coincidentally, I&#039;m now running a series on meditation. The first question I&#039;m tackling is what is it.

One of your readers mentioned mindfulness above and that was the second question I got (the one I&#039;m attempting to answer.)

I think there&#039;s a significant difference between mindfulness and meditation. I also think that meditation is a spiritual pursuit and mindfulness just makes sense in any endeavor. To be completely conscious of the actions we take is a great step towards knowing the &quot;Universe&quot; and ourselves.

In Spirit,
Nneka

BTW, I would like to use this article as the springboard for one of the questions, is that okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across your article in the Carnival of Truth. Coincidentally, I&#8217;m now running a series on meditation. The first question I&#8217;m tackling is what is it.</p>
<p>One of your readers mentioned mindfulness above and that was the second question I got (the one I&#8217;m attempting to answer.)</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a significant difference between mindfulness and meditation. I also think that meditation is a spiritual pursuit and mindfulness just makes sense in any endeavor. To be completely conscious of the actions we take is a great step towards knowing the &#8220;Universe&#8221; and ourselves.</p>
<p>In Spirit,<br />
Nneka</p>
<p>BTW, I would like to use this article as the springboard for one of the questions, is that okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Truth #5</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-157944</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnival of Truth #5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Isabella Mori presents Meditation Stinks! posted at Change Therapy, saying, &#8220;The truth often takes a little time. This post is about what happens when we simply skim a scientific article - in this case, one about meditation.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Isabella Mori presents Meditation Stinks! posted at Change Therapy, saying, &#8220;The truth often takes a little time. This post is about what happens when we simply skim a scientific article &#8211; in this case, one about meditation.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-136594</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess part of the problem is that it is not easy to study a subtle and yet wide-ranging activity such as meditation with research instruments that are generally geared to studying more measurable effects.

the other difficulty is that meditation means different things to different people.  for example, i can think of a number of people who would say that yoga, tai chi and qi gong cannot be equated with meditation, and others who would say that contemplative prayer, a form a christian meditation, should definitely have been included in the study.

the next thing for me to do is to read the original article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess part of the problem is that it is not easy to study a subtle and yet wide-ranging activity such as meditation with research instruments that are generally geared to studying more measurable effects.</p>
<p>the other difficulty is that meditation means different things to different people.  for example, i can think of a number of people who would say that yoga, tai chi and qi gong cannot be equated with meditation, and others who would say that contemplative prayer, a form a christian meditation, should definitely have been included in the study.</p>
<p>the next thing for me to do is to read the original article!</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/meditation-stinks/comment-page-1/#comment-135372</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, am saddened that the headlines are misleading and direct us toward a statement (ie meditation doesn&#039;t help) that is not necessarily true. 

And I recognize that there are certainly reasons to doubt the way that some of the studies were designed--small control groups, working with those who have meditated for many years without considering how their lifestyle choices may have increased their ability to concentrate/have low blood pressure/reduce angry moments, etc.  But as you say, doubting a study&#039;s design or results is not the same as doubting the benefits of meditation. 

I do, however, think that there is a tendency to be mindless about reporting on mindfulness.  A recent article in the NY Times carried a photo of kids sitting with eyes closed at their desks and the first sentence mentioned using Tibetan singing bowls in the public classroom as a cue for mindfulness training.  Yikes.  This is precisely why people continue to see mindfulness as a religious pursuit instead of a secular health or education-oriented skill that can increase our ability to focus in all areas of life.  

But mindfulness teachers are just as much to blame as journalists for this perception.  By clinging(!) to the concept of meditation as the only path to greater mindfulness, meditation teachers are inadvertently creating a huge barrier for the milions of people who are interested in awareness but not necessarily likely to embrace meditation.  

We don&#039;t want to throw out the baby with the bathwater--we need to encourage people to develop MINDFULNESS in whatever way works for them.  

And the more headlines we read about meditation &quot;not working&quot;, the more likely these millions of people are to dismiss the notion of meditation altogether. 

We can do our part by emphasizing that meditation can certainly work but that it is MINDFULNESS that is beneficial.  Celebrate the fact that we have some wiggle room to create our own mindfulness practice, and release our grasp on meditation as the only &quot;right&quot; way. 

Best,
Maya

www.Real-WorldMindfulness.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am saddened that the headlines are misleading and direct us toward a statement (ie meditation doesn&#8217;t help) that is not necessarily true. </p>
<p>And I recognize that there are certainly reasons to doubt the way that some of the studies were designed&#8211;small control groups, working with those who have meditated for many years without considering how their lifestyle choices may have increased their ability to concentrate/have low blood pressure/reduce angry moments, etc.  But as you say, doubting a study&#8217;s design or results is not the same as doubting the benefits of meditation. </p>
<p>I do, however, think that there is a tendency to be mindless about reporting on mindfulness.  A recent article in the NY Times carried a photo of kids sitting with eyes closed at their desks and the first sentence mentioned using Tibetan singing bowls in the public classroom as a cue for mindfulness training.  Yikes.  This is precisely why people continue to see mindfulness as a religious pursuit instead of a secular health or education-oriented skill that can increase our ability to focus in all areas of life.  </p>
<p>But mindfulness teachers are just as much to blame as journalists for this perception.  By clinging(!) to the concept of meditation as the only path to greater mindfulness, meditation teachers are inadvertently creating a huge barrier for the milions of people who are interested in awareness but not necessarily likely to embrace meditation.  </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want to throw out the baby with the bathwater&#8211;we need to encourage people to develop MINDFULNESS in whatever way works for them.  </p>
<p>And the more headlines we read about meditation &#8220;not working&#8221;, the more likely these millions of people are to dismiss the notion of meditation altogether. </p>
<p>We can do our part by emphasizing that meditation can certainly work but that it is MINDFULNESS that is beneficial.  Celebrate the fact that we have some wiggle room to create our own mindfulness practice, and release our grasp on meditation as the only &#8220;right&#8221; way. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Maya</p>
<p><a href="http://www.Real-WorldMindfulness.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Real-WorldMindfulness.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: OCD On A Stick</title>
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		<dc:creator>OCD On A Stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The controversial headline was probably meant to be an attention-getter.  It&#039;s too bad that so much reporting is wasted on poor quality studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The controversial headline was probably meant to be an attention-getter.  It&#8217;s too bad that so much reporting is wasted on poor quality studies.</p>
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