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		<title>By: Boysmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boysmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Stranger - have you any knowledge of what you speak?  Doesn&#039;t sound like it.   When you use the word &quot;intellectualization&quot; it is clear to anyone familiar with the program that you are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Stranger &#8211; have you any knowledge of what you speak?  Doesn&#8217;t sound like it.   When you use the word &#8220;intellectualization&#8221; it is clear to anyone familiar with the program that you are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Stranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something I see many people who go to AA.  They use the 12 steps, the involvement in the AA process, etc., as crutches.  They use these things to intellectualize their problems.  They become rigorously involved to hide their problems.  AA becomes a crutch because it successfully alleviates the bad feelings people have.  They stop drinking, yes, in some cases.  Some people stop drinking because they never had a problem with drinking in the first place.  However, to truly heal, steps are useless.  They are only restrictions that keep you on a strict path to nowhere.  The steps are futile.  The intellectualization is futile.  What really needs to be dealt with is the actual underlying cause of your problems.  You are not the root cause of your problems.  You can enjoy yourself.  You can live as you want to live.  You do not need to restrict yourself to eventually recover and reach happiness.  You need to understand yourself and really look at the problems that caused you to go to alcohol in the first place, and deal with those problems themselves in a straightforward manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something I see many people who go to AA.  They use the 12 steps, the involvement in the AA process, etc., as crutches.  They use these things to intellectualize their problems.  They become rigorously involved to hide their problems.  AA becomes a crutch because it successfully alleviates the bad feelings people have.  They stop drinking, yes, in some cases.  Some people stop drinking because they never had a problem with drinking in the first place.  However, to truly heal, steps are useless.  They are only restrictions that keep you on a strict path to nowhere.  The steps are futile.  The intellectualization is futile.  What really needs to be dealt with is the actual underlying cause of your problems.  You are not the root cause of your problems.  You can enjoy yourself.  You can live as you want to live.  You do not need to restrict yourself to eventually recover and reach happiness.  You need to understand yourself and really look at the problems that caused you to go to alcohol in the first place, and deal with those problems themselves in a straightforward manner.</p>
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		<title>By: cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>depression is directly related to the 12 steps of AA. could some one direct me to a study or survey to verify this. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>depression is directly related to the 12 steps of AA. could some one direct me to a study or survey to verify this. thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I ever get a phd in psychology, I&#039;ll write you up a dark and funny story about the sub-conscious mind.

&lt;em&gt;Charlie&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.annandrichard.com/?p=21&#039;&gt;Learned&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever get a phd in psychology, I&#8217;ll write you up a dark and funny story about the sub-conscious mind.</p>
<p><em>Charlie&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.annandrichard.com/?p=21'>Learned</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: depression help</title>
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		<dc:creator>depression help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a lovely post with a fresh outlook and a way of thinking about depression that I&#039;ve been searching for.  Sometimes you read something that just clarifies the way your mind has been looking at the problem.  I&#039;ve known for a long time that my depression is related to my need for certain things and when they don&#039;t happen I get depressed.  The answer is definitely to stop focusing on your self and to start helping others, thank you for helping me remember this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lovely post with a fresh outlook and a way of thinking about depression that I&#8217;ve been searching for.  Sometimes you read something that just clarifies the way your mind has been looking at the problem.  I&#8217;ve known for a long time that my depression is related to my need for certain things and when they don&#8217;t happen I get depressed.  The answer is definitely to stop focusing on your self and to start helping others, thank you for helping me remember this.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander M Zoltai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander M Zoltai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post!

I want to say, &quot;If Bill could do it, anyone can.&quot;

He wasn&#039;t the most despicable drunk but he was one of the most egotistical.

Jung spoke of the archetypes having the power to inflate the ego--rather like psychological shock therapy.

Could someone please write an essay about the dark humor of the unconscious?

~ Alex from &lt;a href=&quot;http://amzuri.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;Our Evolution&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Alexander M Zoltai&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://amzuri.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/rationale-for-this-blog/&#039;&gt;Rationale for This Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post!</p>
<p>I want to say, &#8220;If Bill could do it, anyone can.&#8221;</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t the most despicable drunk but he was one of the most egotistical.</p>
<p>Jung spoke of the archetypes having the power to inflate the ego&#8211;rather like psychological shock therapy.</p>
<p>Could someone please write an essay about the dark humor of the unconscious?</p>
<p>~ Alex from <a href="http://amzuri.wordpress.com/">Our Evolution</a></p>
<p><em>Alexander M Zoltai&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://amzuri.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/rationale-for-this-blog/'>Rationale for This Blog</a></em></p>
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