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		<title>By: Northern Voice, With Peas</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-852196</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Voice, With Peas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 15:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am so looking forward to our yearly blogging conference here in Vancouver, Northern Voice. I had lots of fun there last year. Nancy White’s ideas, particularly on technology stewardship, really stand out, as well as Zak [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am so looking forward to our yearly blogging conference here in Vancouver, Northern Voice. I had lots of fun there last year. Nancy White’s ideas, particularly on technology stewardship, really stand out, as well as Zak [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chelle</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-428914</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! I think good conversation comes with people who feel comfortable in opening up to each other and exploring different perspective together - too much one sidedness or agreement is boring, and yet too much opposition is not good either!

Some questions are good to ask, but then there are some people you honestly feel like you are being interrogated by - which is definitely where you start looking for those quick &quot;fill in the hole&quot; answers, lol. great read, thank you :) I will have to visit here again!

&lt;em&gt;Chelle&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.itmightbelove.com/2008/04/07/the-pursuit-of-happiness-the-secrets-to-being-happy/&#039;&gt;The Pursuit of Happiness: The Secrets to Being Happy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! I think good conversation comes with people who feel comfortable in opening up to each other and exploring different perspective together &#8211; too much one sidedness or agreement is boring, and yet too much opposition is not good either!</p>
<p>Some questions are good to ask, but then there are some people you honestly feel like you are being interrogated by &#8211; which is definitely where you start looking for those quick &#8220;fill in the hole&#8221; answers, lol. great read, thank you <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I will have to visit here again!</p>
<p><em>Chelle&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.itmightbelove.com/2008/04/07/the-pursuit-of-happiness-the-secrets-to-being-happy/'>The Pursuit of Happiness: The Secrets to Being Happy</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-401366</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me, too!  you going to be wearing your peadreadlocks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me, too!  you going to be wearing your peadreadlocks?</p>
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		<title>By: nancy white</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-400309</link>
		<dc:creator>nancy white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, looking forward to human sculptures at NV this weekend!! See you soon

&lt;em&gt;nancy white&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/fullcirc/kmDz/~3/238205759/&#039;&gt;Hope Wechkin — integration and the important things that surface.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, looking forward to human sculptures at NV this weekend!! See you soon</p>
<p><em>nancy white&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/fullcirc/kmDz/~3/238205759/'>Hope Wechkin — integration and the important things that surface.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: more on online conversations: twittering with robert scoble &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>more on online conversations: twittering with robert scoble &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] i’m really intrigued by twitter and its ability quickly and easily to engage people online. it’s another conversation tool, and you guys know how dear to my heart the topic of conversation is. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] i’m really intrigued by twitter and its ability quickly and easily to engage people online. it’s another conversation tool, and you guys know how dear to my heart the topic of conversation is. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Belladonna</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-15882</link>
		<dc:creator>Belladonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 04:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was taught in the past to practice being a good listener, with the caution that &quot;when you are talking, you can&#039;t learn anything because you already know what you have to say...you have two ears and one mouth, so that&#039;s the creator&#039;s way of saying you should listen twice as much as you talk.&quot;

I acknowledge that true listening is powerful and most of us could do better in practicing being fully present to what others say.

However, I find that I DO learn when I am talking.  When I am in TRUE conversation, sharing words in an authentic manner with another, I am able to experiment with owning feelings, fears, hopes, thoughts, ideas in new ways as I clothe these intangible glipses with words.  As I verbalize what I am only beginning to discover myself I make new discoveries.

To me, the best conversations are the ones where both/all parties involve can strike a balance between safety and vulnerability, to take chances with exploring meaning-making rather than merely playing expected roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was taught in the past to practice being a good listener, with the caution that &#8220;when you are talking, you can&#8217;t learn anything because you already know what you have to say&#8230;you have two ears and one mouth, so that&#8217;s the creator&#8217;s way of saying you should listen twice as much as you talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>I acknowledge that true listening is powerful and most of us could do better in practicing being fully present to what others say.</p>
<p>However, I find that I DO learn when I am talking.  When I am in TRUE conversation, sharing words in an authentic manner with another, I am able to experiment with owning feelings, fears, hopes, thoughts, ideas in new ways as I clothe these intangible glipses with words.  As I verbalize what I am only beginning to discover myself I make new discoveries.</p>
<p>To me, the best conversations are the ones where both/all parties involve can strike a balance between safety and vulnerability, to take chances with exploring meaning-making rather than merely playing expected roles.</p>
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		<title>By: designing the web &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>designing the web &#187; change therapy - isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] i’m still digesting the great fare at the northern voice blogging conference. as you may have gleaned already, one of my favourites there was nancy white. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-14941</link>
		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi jan
&lt;blockquote&gt;The technology has to provide the features that the audience is seeking for that particular discussion, their particular role in this community ... So: What kind of conversation do you want?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
that&#039;s a good question.  it reframes very nicely another question i&#039;ve been asking, which is, &quot;what is the conversational context?&quot;

my first reaction to your question is, i want a conversation where my readers feel invited to participate.  ideally, this participation, at least sometimes, goes beyond responding.  i love comments like yours that say, &quot;... and did you think about THIS?  and what about THAT idea over there?&quot;

in nancy-white-speak, that would be the community-of-interest blogger.  which means that eventually, i&#039;ll have to have more conversational/interactional modes on this blog.  (forums?  wikis?  regular chats?)

i&#039;ll be thinking about this some more.  i just found that &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.fullcirc.com/community/communitypurpose.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nancy white has a great checklist regarding interactional purposes&lt;/a&gt;, so let&#039;s see what happens there ...
&lt;blockquote&gt;Taking the discussion onto your own professional world, it’s my understanding that there should be solid shutters between Joe the Therapist and Joe the Private Guy. No transparency here, thank you very much.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
i&#039;m not quite sure what you&#039;re referring to here; there are many angles from which to look at this topic.  my paper on &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.com/therapists_and_countertransference.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;countertransference&lt;/a&gt; may have something to say about this.

to my mind, the long and short of this is:

1. as a therapist, i need to make it abundantly clear to my clients and myself that the work is about THEM, not about me
2. talking about me is helpful if and when it serves one or both of these two therapeutic purposes - a) to build the human connection between the client and myself; and b)  it may be a teaching tool, as virginia satir puts it (e.g. &quot;when i had this problem, this is how i dealt with it&quot;)
3. in all public communication (as in this blog), i need to do my utmost to protect client confidentiality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi jan</p>
<blockquote><p>The technology has to provide the features that the audience is seeking for that particular discussion, their particular role in this community &#8230; So: What kind of conversation do you want?</p></blockquote>
<p>that&#8217;s a good question.  it reframes very nicely another question i&#8217;ve been asking, which is, &#8220;what is the conversational context?&#8221;</p>
<p>my first reaction to your question is, i want a conversation where my readers feel invited to participate.  ideally, this participation, at least sometimes, goes beyond responding.  i love comments like yours that say, &#8220;&#8230; and did you think about THIS?  and what about THAT idea over there?&#8221;</p>
<p>in nancy-white-speak, that would be the community-of-interest blogger.  which means that eventually, i&#8217;ll have to have more conversational/interactional modes on this blog.  (forums?  wikis?  regular chats?)</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll be thinking about this some more.  i just found that <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fullcirc.com/community/communitypurpose.htm" rel="nofollow">nancy white has a great checklist regarding interactional purposes</a>, so let&#8217;s see what happens there &#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Taking the discussion onto your own professional world, it’s my understanding that there should be solid shutters between Joe the Therapist and Joe the Private Guy. No transparency here, thank you very much.</p></blockquote>
<p>i&#8217;m not quite sure what you&#8217;re referring to here; there are many angles from which to look at this topic.  my paper on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.moritherapy.com/therapists_and_countertransference.html" rel="nofollow">countertransference</a> may have something to say about this.</p>
<p>to my mind, the long and short of this is:</p>
<p>1. as a therapist, i need to make it abundantly clear to my clients and myself that the work is about THEM, not about me<br />
2. talking about me is helpful if and when it serves one or both of these two therapeutic purposes &#8211; a) to build the human connection between the client and myself; and b)  it may be a teaching tool, as virginia satir puts it (e.g. &#8220;when i had this problem, this is how i dealt with it&#8221;)<br />
3. in all public communication (as in this blog), i need to do my utmost to protect client confidentiality</p>
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		<title>By: thekenshow</title>
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		<dc:creator>thekenshow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good conversation brings the particpants to deeper awareness and new ideas. It can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theworldcafe.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;purposeful&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohm_Dialogue&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;undirected&lt;/a&gt;, but in essence it is generative and collective. A good conversation is more than a sharing of ideas, more than the spreading of knowledge; it is the emergence of new &lt;a href=&quot;http://integralvisioning.org/article.php?story=cq-wilber-subjectivity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;intersubjective&lt;/a&gt; meaning. It&#039;s not a bad way to pass the time over Guinness, either ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good conversation brings the particpants to deeper awareness and new ideas. It can <a href="http://www.theworldcafe.com/" rel="nofollow">purposeful</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohm_Dialogue" rel="nofollow">undirected</a>, but in essence it is generative and collective. A good conversation is more than a sharing of ideas, more than the spreading of knowledge; it is the emergence of new <a href="http://integralvisioning.org/article.php?story=cq-wilber-subjectivity" rel="nofollow">intersubjective</a> meaning. It&#8217;s not a bad way to pass the time over Guinness, either <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/conversations-at-northern-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-14893</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I couldn&#039;t make it to that discussion. So much else to do at the conference!

&quot;BED experiences with questions&quot; ?!? :-)

OK, back on topic. What&#039;s needed for conversations depend much on the topic and the culture. Nancy&#039;s figure with three different type of setups for blogs + comments illustrated that nicely.

1. CEO blogger: Unless some sort of anonymity is guaranteed, most of the staff will abstain from commenting on anything
2. The three PhD-bloggers: These guys absolutely want credit for their clever comments (no anonymity here) but they may want the conversation closed (semi-private blog).
3. Community of interest (knit-bloggers etc.): The participants want credit for their comments (but they may prefer to be known by a nome de guerre, not their actual name), visibility (pointing people to their own blogs), community, togetherness.

The technology has to provide the features that the audience is seeking for that particular discussion, their particular role in &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; community (an individual could easily be a member of all three types of communities, and want different conversation features in each type of community).

Taking the discussion onto your own professional world, it&#039;s my understanding that there should be solid shutters between Joe the Therapist and Joe the Private Guy. No transparency here, thank you very much.

So: What kind of conversation do you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I couldn&#8217;t make it to that discussion. So much else to do at the conference!</p>
<p>&#8220;BED experiences with questions&#8221; ?!? <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>OK, back on topic. What&#8217;s needed for conversations depend much on the topic and the culture. Nancy&#8217;s figure with three different type of setups for blogs + comments illustrated that nicely.</p>
<p>1. CEO blogger: Unless some sort of anonymity is guaranteed, most of the staff will abstain from commenting on anything<br />
2. The three PhD-bloggers: These guys absolutely want credit for their clever comments (no anonymity here) but they may want the conversation closed (semi-private blog).<br />
3. Community of interest (knit-bloggers etc.): The participants want credit for their comments (but they may prefer to be known by a nome de guerre, not their actual name), visibility (pointing people to their own blogs), community, togetherness.</p>
<p>The technology has to provide the features that the audience is seeking for that particular discussion, their particular role in <em>this</em> community (an individual could easily be a member of all three types of communities, and want different conversation features in each type of community).</p>
<p>Taking the discussion onto your own professional world, it&#8217;s my understanding that there should be solid shutters between Joe the Therapist and Joe the Private Guy. No transparency here, thank you very much.</p>
<p>So: What kind of conversation do you want?</p>
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