Comments on: belief in a personal god http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/ making lives better, making better lives Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Evan http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-659073 Evan Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:38:27 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-659073 My experience of (what I call) God's presence is of a calm centredness, an elated calmness. <em>Evan's last blog post..<a href='http://www.livingauthentically.org/2009/04/living-authentically-brings-you-lasting-satisfaction/'>Living Authentically Brings You Lasting Satisfaction</a></em> My experience of (what I call) God’s presence is of a calm centredness, an elated calmness.

Evan’s last blog post..Living Authentically Brings You Lasting Satisfaction

]]> By: Rhys http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-658929 Rhys Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:27:19 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-658929 There is only one true God, but He might have as many faces/natures as there are persons contemplating Him! You can't influence my perception of God, because it is based on personal experience, not theory or discussion; so I can't attempt to influence yours. Anyone for sharing? <em>Rhys's last blog post..<a href='http://how-to-preach.org/how-to-preach/how-to-preach/'>How to Preach</a></em> There is only one true God, but He might have as many faces/natures as there are persons contemplating Him!

You can’t influence my perception of God, because it is based on personal experience, not theory or discussion; so I can’t attempt to influence yours.

Anyone for sharing?

Rhys’s last blog post..How to Preach

]]> By: Bogdan http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-650755 Bogdan Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:25:26 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-650755 Everyone sees God in a personal manner depending upon its culture, origins, intelligence, feelings, emotions and knowledge. So God is regarded differently by everyone. This is my opinion. <em>Bogdan's last blog post..<a href='http://bluria.com/despre-adevar/'>Despre adevar?</a></em> Everyone sees God in a personal manner depending upon its culture, origins, intelligence, feelings, emotions and knowledge. So God is regarded differently by everyone. This is my opinion.

Bogdan’s last blog post..Despre adevar?

]]> By: Catatonic Kid http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-647644 Catatonic Kid Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:21:30 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-647644 so, god as process maybe...? god as the act, the happening rather than the before or after. uncountable but not outside the realms of that which we count. the path and not the place, and even then only present as your foot hits the ground... something like the insoluble presence that binds the knower and the known...? too many thoughts for such a little box here :) <em>Catatonic Kid's last blog post..<a href='http://catatonickid.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/daft-questions/'>Half full or empty, it?s still a daft question.</a></em> so, god as process maybe…? god as the act, the happening rather than the before or after.

uncountable but not outside the realms of that which we count. the path and not the place, and even then only present as your foot hits the ground…

something like the insoluble presence that binds the knower and the known…?

too many thoughts for such a little box here :)

Catatonic Kid’s last blog post..Half full or empty, it?s still a daft question.

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-646424 sarah luczaj Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:40:03 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-646424 Difference is totally positive to me, as is individuality - I suppose I am talking about levels - a human level and a spiritual one, which is a truth that kind of co-exists - on this level we are all one, but it's an intricate kind of vastness - not that we are all 'the same'... don't think I am making much sense, this stuff is hard to talk about ;-) like the starfish! Difference is totally positive to me, as is individuality – I suppose I am talking about levels – a human level and a spiritual one, which is a truth that kind of co-exists – on this level we are all one, but it’s an intricate kind of vastness – not that we are all ‘the same’… don’t think I am making much sense, this stuff is hard to talk about ;-)

like the starfish!

]]> By: Evan http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-646409 Evan Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:24:07 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-646409 The 'starfish' was the story of the man who sees a beach full of starfish and another man throwing back into the sea one starfish at a time. The man (seeing the beach full of starfish) says, "you're not making any difference to all these starfish". The reply being, "It makes a difference to this one". I think we meet god in and through the specific individual. We go beyond individuality to meet (another) individual I think. It seems to me that differences can have positive value. Division means good sex and novel discovery as well as indifference and cruelty. This is a big discussion I think - but an important one. <em>Evan's last blog post..<a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wellbeingandhealthnet/~3/JQ4-Qey3mlg/'>Pagan and Christian</a></em> The ‘starfish’ was the story of the man who sees a beach full of starfish and another man throwing back into the sea one starfish at a time. The man (seeing the beach full of starfish) says, “you’re not making any difference to all these starfish”. The reply being, “It makes a difference to this one”.

I think we meet god in and through the specific individual. We go beyond individuality to meet (another) individual I think. It seems to me that differences can have positive value. Division means good sex and novel discovery as well as indifference and cruelty. This is a big discussion I think – but an important one.

Evan’s last blog post..Pagan and Christian

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-646395 sarah luczaj Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:38:33 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-646395 Hi Evan - sorry for changing your 'always' to 'only'! I expressed myself badly last night I think, you wrote "The important part of the personal god I think is that this brings the possibility of compassion - always a response to an individual." and my point is really that you do not need a personal god to bring the possibility of compassion - although you are probably right in that you do need an individual. Through compassion for that individual you discover that the individual is all and all are in the individual and so compassion goes beyond division - which is where, I imagine, we might meet 'god'. Individuality is precious to me too, and I am sure we agree on the practical level. I don't know what you mean with the starfish - but it sounds like a good idea :-) Hi Evan – sorry for changing your ‘always’ to ‘only’!

I expressed myself badly last night I think, you wrote

“The important part of the personal god I think is that this brings the possibility of compassion – always a response to an individual.”

and my point is really that you do not need a personal god to bring the possibility of compassion – although you are probably right in that you do need an individual. Through compassion for that individual you discover that the individual is all and all are in the individual and so compassion goes beyond division – which is where, I imagine, we might meet ‘god’.

Individuality is precious to me too, and I am sure we agree on the practical level. I don’t know what you mean with the starfish – but it sounds like a good idea :-)

]]> By: Evan http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-646304 Evan Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:43:47 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-646304 I challenge your 'only' Sarah. Also the 'all' (in one sense). I know there are big discussions involved. For me individuality is precious. If I understand what you are saying compassion breaks barriers between you and others. I think this is what compassion does. For me compassion means relating to this individual before me. I do think being compassionate to all means being compassionate to this one. Tossing back the one starfish or giving my time to this person. I trust this makes sense. My guess is that we don't disagree about meeting individuals. We may disagree about metaphysics and how we express our experience (or maybe not). I challenge your ‘only’ Sarah. Also the ‘all’ (in one sense). I know there are big discussions involved. For me individuality is precious.

If I understand what you are saying compassion breaks barriers between you and others. I think this is what compassion does.

For me compassion means relating to this individual before me. I do think being compassionate to all means being compassionate to this one. Tossing back the one starfish or giving my time to this person. I trust this makes sense.

My guess is that we don’t disagree about meeting individuals. We may disagree about metaphysics and how we express our experience (or maybe not).

]]> By: sarah luczaj http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-646280 sarah luczaj Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:23:18 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-646280 why is compassion only a response to an individual? i feel/understand/know/experience compassion as something which breaks down all individual barriers and so to be compassionate to one is to be compassionate to all... which nation? which cleavage?! why is compassion only a response to an individual? i feel/understand/know/experience compassion as something which breaks down all individual barriers and so to be compassionate to one is to be compassionate to all…

which nation? which cleavage?!

]]> By: Evan http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/comment-page-1/#comment-645389 Evan Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:11:33 +0000 http://www.moritherapy.org/article/belief-in-a-personal-god/#comment-645389 The important part of the personal god I think is that this brings the possibility of compassion - always a response to an individual. I'm not sure a god who lacks (even the possibility of) compassion is worth the name. PS. National cleavage day? The important part of the personal god I think is that this brings the possibility of compassion – always a response to an individual.

I’m not sure a god who lacks (even the possibility of) compassion is worth the name.

PS. National cleavage day?

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