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		<title>By: payday loans online</title>
		<link>http://www.moritherapy.org/article/anorexia-obesity-and-sex-a-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-658201</link>
		<dc:creator>payday loans online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having government step in and zone fast food locations is about as ridiculous as it gets. People that have no self control should instead be government mandated to get a manual labor job, move out of the city to farm and do at least 1 hour of exercise per day. Instead of punishing businesses and responsible consumers why don&#039;t you go after the people that ruin it for everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having government step in and zone fast food locations is about as ridiculous as it gets. People that have no self control should instead be government mandated to get a manual labor job, move out of the city to farm and do at least 1 hour of exercise per day. Instead of punishing businesses and responsible consumers why don&#8217;t you go after the people that ruin it for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi dohfiddle - short comment, and to the point!

hi keith - thanks for your well thought-out comment.  i agree with you, issues such as self esteem, cultural/media influences and family history definitely play a role.  however, as dohfiddle says, there&#039;s more to it.  the book &quot;gaining&quot; by aimee liu paints a very good picture of the numerous factors that may be the cause of anorexia, and one of them that you haven&#039;t mentioned yet is genetics.

the attraction to people with anorexia is also based on a number of different things.  as i mentioned, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/anorexia-and-sex-survey-pulling-it-all-together/&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; gives a bit of an overview.  again, it&#039;s a bit of a mystery.  the difference between saying one is attracted to someone very thin and actually BEING with someone like that is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi dohfiddle &#8211; short comment, and to the point!</p>
<p>hi keith &#8211; thanks for your well thought-out comment.  i agree with you, issues such as self esteem, cultural/media influences and family history definitely play a role.  however, as dohfiddle says, there&#8217;s more to it.  the book &#8220;gaining&#8221; by aimee liu paints a very good picture of the numerous factors that may be the cause of anorexia, and one of them that you haven&#8217;t mentioned yet is genetics.</p>
<p>the attraction to people with anorexia is also based on a number of different things.  as i mentioned, <a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/anorexia-and-sex-survey-pulling-it-all-together/">this post</a> gives a bit of an overview.  again, it&#8217;s a bit of a mystery.  the difference between saying one is attracted to someone very thin and actually BEING with someone like that is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anorexia is essentially a self image problem which stems from low self esteem. This can commonly be attributed to emotional abuse at a young age, non - acceptance by peer groups and / or a lack of support at an emotional level. Other causes can be sexual abuse from peers within the family, peer pressure from social groups such as hollywood, the &#039;in crowd&#039; at school or prospective partners. As for sex in relation to anorexia the attraction to super thin people has been genrated on the big screen and is largely responsible for the massive following which was taken up by the fashion industry. It is interesting to note that, prior to the 1950&#039;s and early 60&#039;s anorexia nervosa did not even exist. This can be evidenced by looking at who WAS popular then. Body shapes. the likes of marilyn monroe and Betty Davis, were rounded out and what we, today, in our politically correct, perfectionistic, minimalist society, would call &#039;plump&#039; or &#039;fat&#039;. There is also the matching phenomenon. This relates to how we see ourselves. If I am a big person there is a good chance that I do not think I will be accepted by a small person. I will then go and search out another, equally big person as a prospective partner. The same applies if I am super skinny. This comes back to self acceptance and self esteem. For more answers or other marterial please contact me at admin@fat-loss4idiots.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anorexia is essentially a self image problem which stems from low self esteem. This can commonly be attributed to emotional abuse at a young age, non &#8211; acceptance by peer groups and / or a lack of support at an emotional level. Other causes can be sexual abuse from peers within the family, peer pressure from social groups such as hollywood, the &#8216;in crowd&#8217; at school or prospective partners. As for sex in relation to anorexia the attraction to super thin people has been genrated on the big screen and is largely responsible for the massive following which was taken up by the fashion industry. It is interesting to note that, prior to the 1950&#8242;s and early 60&#8242;s anorexia nervosa did not even exist. This can be evidenced by looking at who WAS popular then. Body shapes. the likes of marilyn monroe and Betty Davis, were rounded out and what we, today, in our politically correct, perfectionistic, minimalist society, would call &#8216;plump&#8217; or &#8216;fat&#8217;. There is also the matching phenomenon. This relates to how we see ourselves. If I am a big person there is a good chance that I do not think I will be accepted by a small person. I will then go and search out another, equally big person as a prospective partner. The same applies if I am super skinny. This comes back to self acceptance and self esteem. For more answers or other marterial please contact me at <a href="mailto:admin@fat-loss4idiots.com">admin@fat-loss4idiots.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dohfiddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dohfiddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people are complicated and no one thing causes the extremes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people are complicated and no one thing causes the extremes</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi rachel, and thanks for visiting!

re the clarification: i really did mean that overeating is an addictive problem for SOME people (i.e. not for ALL).

there are many reasons why people weigh more than they would like to; compulsive overeating is just one of them.

you may want to refer to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/obesity-research/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post on research on obesity&lt;/a&gt;.

so i would agree with you, rachel - obesity MAY be a sign of an eating disorder but it is not a SURE sign.  it&#039;s best not to go around diagnosing people - although i also get it that people who are recovering want to help others so much that sometimes they can see a problem where there is none (or point one out when the person in question isn&#039;t ready to hear about it).

and yes, it IS about the relationship with food.  i know numerous people with eating disorders whose difficulties are compounded by the fact that they don&#039;t &quot;look&quot; like they have an eating disorder.  in the same vein, not every thin person has anorexia and not every overweight person is a food addict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi rachel, and thanks for visiting!</p>
<p>re the clarification: i really did mean that overeating is an addictive problem for SOME people (i.e. not for ALL).</p>
<p>there are many reasons why people weigh more than they would like to; compulsive overeating is just one of them.</p>
<p>you may want to refer to <a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/obesity-research/" rel="nofollow">this post on research on obesity</a>.</p>
<p>so i would agree with you, rachel &#8211; obesity MAY be a sign of an eating disorder but it is not a SURE sign.  it&#8217;s best not to go around diagnosing people &#8211; although i also get it that people who are recovering want to help others so much that sometimes they can see a problem where there is none (or point one out when the person in question isn&#8217;t ready to hear about it).</p>
<p>and yes, it IS about the relationship with food.  i know numerous people with eating disorders whose difficulties are compounded by the fact that they don&#8217;t &#8220;look&#8221; like they have an eating disorder.  in the same vein, not every thin person has anorexia and not every overweight person is a food addict.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: &lt;i&gt;&quot;so of course it is possible to lose weight and keep it off. however, for some people, overeating is truly an addiction, and addictions are very hard to overcome, as we know.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d like a clarification on the above statement: Are you saying that the reason fat people are fat is because they have an addictive problem with overeating?

I don&#039;t disagree that some fat people (as do some thin people) have classifiable problems with binge eating or compulsive overeating, but I would hope that you would also recognize that there are many, many people who eat a healthy balanced diet and exercise regularly, and yet are still fat.  Fitness, not fatness, should be the best marker of good health.  

&lt;i&gt;having said that, yes, morbid obesity, along with overweight and obesity has risen dramatically – it would be silly to disagree with that.&lt;/i&gt;

Not so silly if you look at the numbers.  Americans, on average, have gotten heavier through the years but the average increase is 5 to 7 pounds.  Women today are no heavier than they were in the 1990s.  

As well, lobbyists who have a financial interest in making people feel they have to lose weight have continued to push for a lowering of the overweight bar defining who is and who isn&#039;t overweight.  In the late 1990s, the government arbitrarily changed the definition of overweight, thus turning 35 million Americans overweight overnight.  

And as for Althea&#039;s &lt;b&gt;very&lt;/b&gt; misinformed comment: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I agree totally: obesity is a sure sign of an eating disorder and an eating disorder is an addiction.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Obesity in and of itself is not a sign of an eating disorder.  Those who have researched eating disorders and who have had personal experiences with an eating disorder will tell you that it&#039;s one &lt;i&gt;relationship&lt;/i&gt; with food and weight that forms the basis of an eating disorder.  And this relationship is something that cannot be assumed on the basis whether one is too fat or too thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: <i>&#8220;so of course it is possible to lose weight and keep it off. however, for some people, overeating is truly an addiction, and addictions are very hard to overcome, as we know.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like a clarification on the above statement: Are you saying that the reason fat people are fat is because they have an addictive problem with overeating?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that some fat people (as do some thin people) have classifiable problems with binge eating or compulsive overeating, but I would hope that you would also recognize that there are many, many people who eat a healthy balanced diet and exercise regularly, and yet are still fat.  Fitness, not fatness, should be the best marker of good health.  </p>
<p><i>having said that, yes, morbid obesity, along with overweight and obesity has risen dramatically – it would be silly to disagree with that.</i></p>
<p>Not so silly if you look at the numbers.  Americans, on average, have gotten heavier through the years but the average increase is 5 to 7 pounds.  Women today are no heavier than they were in the 1990s.  </p>
<p>As well, lobbyists who have a financial interest in making people feel they have to lose weight have continued to push for a lowering of the overweight bar defining who is and who isn&#8217;t overweight.  In the late 1990s, the government arbitrarily changed the definition of overweight, thus turning 35 million Americans overweight overnight.  </p>
<p>And as for Althea&#8217;s <b>very</b> misinformed comment: <i>&#8220;I agree totally: obesity is a sure sign of an eating disorder and an eating disorder is an addiction.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Obesity in and of itself is not a sign of an eating disorder.  Those who have researched eating disorders and who have had personal experiences with an eating disorder will tell you that it&#8217;s one <i>relationship</i> with food and weight that forms the basis of an eating disorder.  And this relationship is something that cannot be assumed on the basis whether one is too fat or too thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya (aka NetChick)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanya (aka NetChick)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly enlightened response, Isabella.  Thanks for this post.

&lt;em&gt;Tanya (aka NetChick)&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/netchickfeed/~3/213969676/1122&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s the MID-WEEK Socializing Game! (New Year’s Style!)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly enlightened response, Isabella.  Thanks for this post.</p>
<p><em>Tanya (aka NetChick)&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/netchickfeed/~3/213969676/1122' rel="nofollow">It’s the MID-WEEK Socializing Game! (New Year’s Style!)</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Althea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Althea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally: obesity is a sure sign of an eating disorder and an eating disorder is an addiction. I have the blog, the website and the book on addiction to food . Its not the addiction that makes you miserable its the deep seated misery that leads you towards addiction.
Keep up the good work,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally: obesity is a sure sign of an eating disorder and an eating disorder is an addiction. I have the blog, the website and the book on addiction to food . Its not the addiction that makes you miserable its the deep seated misery that leads you towards addiction.<br />
Keep up the good work,</p>
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