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		<description>I find that the best way is to scream when I am by myself... It releases my anger and allows me to be more civil when I am around others. I think that the most important thing is that these Ideas arer made available so that anyone can learn and practice these techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that the best way is to scream when I am by myself&#8230; It releases my anger and allows me to be more civil when I am around others. I think that the most important thing is that these Ideas arer made available so that anyone can learn and practice these techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Revell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Revell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a full fledged Buddhist (for 19 years); before that a devout Christian. Now I live by the Zen philosophy...I consider it a philosophy, not a religion.

I think Obama&#039;s election is great, and especially for minorities who have long felt like society viewed them as 2nd class citizens. However, the American government is so corrupted, changing presidents is like changing t-shirts on a dying cancer victim--the cancer remains but looks different on the outside. It will take several good presidents to really help change things--and an attentively involved public.

I believe many religious people miss the true meaning of their own religions--which is one reason I reject all religion--but I do believe in God and remain spiritual. Anger is part of life...very natural. We sometimes must get our anger out, though it&#039;s not always accepted by the masses as &quot;proper&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;Bobby Revell&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Revellian/~3/0z4l9X3gGEo/&#039;&gt;Britney Spears Concert Killers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a full fledged Buddhist (for 19 years); before that a devout Christian. Now I live by the Zen philosophy&#8230;I consider it a philosophy, not a religion.</p>
<p>I think Obama&#8217;s election is great, and especially for minorities who have long felt like society viewed them as 2nd class citizens. However, the American government is so corrupted, changing presidents is like changing t-shirts on a dying cancer victim&#8211;the cancer remains but looks different on the outside. It will take several good presidents to really help change things&#8211;and an attentively involved public.</p>
<p>I believe many religious people miss the true meaning of their own religions&#8211;which is one reason I reject all religion&#8211;but I do believe in God and remain spiritual. Anger is part of life&#8230;very natural. We sometimes must get our anger out, though it&#8217;s not always accepted by the masses as &#8220;proper&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Bobby Revell&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Revellian/~3/0z4l9X3gGEo/'>Britney Spears Concert Killers</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liara, thanks for showering me with all these comments on my blog today!!

&quot;this urge to redefine is part of evolution.&quot;  that sounds interesting.  can you elaborate on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liara, thanks for showering me with all these comments on my blog today!!</p>
<p>&#8220;this urge to redefine is part of evolution.&#8221;  that sounds interesting.  can you elaborate on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Liara Covert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liara Covert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Normal&quot; is a word people redefine on a regular basis. This urge to redefine is part of evolution.  It is reassuring to know that people who seem difficult can be some of the wisest teachers. How we perceive depends on what we are ready to see and whether we are willing to expand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Normal&#8221; is a word people redefine on a regular basis. This urge to redefine is part of evolution.  It is reassuring to know that people who seem difficult can be some of the wisest teachers. How we perceive depends on what we are ready to see and whether we are willing to expand.</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello ... i&#039;m just going to come out of my little vacation hole and add a few comments.  first of all, thanks for writing this post, 12-step buddhist.

what does it mean to be &quot;normal&quot;?  what does it mean to be angry?

12-step programs are a bit ambivalent about the topic of &quot;normalcy&quot;.  on the one hand, there is the concept of &quot;terminal uniqueness&quot; - that feeling other-than-normal brings us isolation and grief.  on the other hand, there is the idea that people with addictions are not &quot;normies&quot;.  

and buddhism?  same thing, maybe?  on the one hand, there is the deep truth of us all being connected (so no-one is different, apart, not-normal) and on the other, buddhists are asked to forgo many mental, emotional and physical activities that &quot;normal&quot; people often engage in: mindlessness, for example,  overindulgence, and, yes, anger.

suffering comes from attachment and ignorance, says the buddha.  so when evan says bush lacks insight, perhaps it&#039;s that bush is suffering from ignorance (in a much deeper than the very obvious sense), and this ignorance created bad karma for both himself and the world around him.  instant karma for many of us.

on anger, perhaps i should just let thich nhat hanh speak.  you can find his video &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moritherapy.org/article/heroes-of-healing-thich-nhat-hanh/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

and perhaps it al doesn&#039;t matter.  feeling bad for someone who has created suffering for others is a good start.  acknowledging that bush wants happiness is a good start.  remembering that we have to start with ourselves is a good start.  and maybe that&#039;s all we can do - start over again every day, every moment.  (which brings us back to the 12 steps: &quot;one day at a time&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello &#8230; i&#8217;m just going to come out of my little vacation hole and add a few comments.  first of all, thanks for writing this post, 12-step buddhist.</p>
<p>what does it mean to be &#8220;normal&#8221;?  what does it mean to be angry?</p>
<p>12-step programs are a bit ambivalent about the topic of &#8220;normalcy&#8221;.  on the one hand, there is the concept of &#8220;terminal uniqueness&#8221; &#8211; that feeling other-than-normal brings us isolation and grief.  on the other hand, there is the idea that people with addictions are not &#8220;normies&#8221;.  </p>
<p>and buddhism?  same thing, maybe?  on the one hand, there is the deep truth of us all being connected (so no-one is different, apart, not-normal) and on the other, buddhists are asked to forgo many mental, emotional and physical activities that &#8220;normal&#8221; people often engage in: mindlessness, for example,  overindulgence, and, yes, anger.</p>
<p>suffering comes from attachment and ignorance, says the buddha.  so when evan says bush lacks insight, perhaps it&#8217;s that bush is suffering from ignorance (in a much deeper than the very obvious sense), and this ignorance created bad karma for both himself and the world around him.  instant karma for many of us.</p>
<p>on anger, perhaps i should just let thich nhat hanh speak.  you can find his video <a href="http://www.moritherapy.org/article/heroes-of-healing-thich-nhat-hanh/">here</a>.</p>
<p>and perhaps it al doesn&#8217;t matter.  feeling bad for someone who has created suffering for others is a good start.  acknowledging that bush wants happiness is a good start.  remembering that we have to start with ourselves is a good start.  and maybe that&#8217;s all we can do &#8211; start over again every day, every moment.  (which brings us back to the 12 steps: &#8220;one day at a time&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point I got stuck was that you said the Buddhist are different from normal people in that they don&#039;t have the luxury of anger like &quot;normal&quot; people which is to say that somehow Buddhist are not normal. I find this strange, we are all on our journey and yes when we are full of love and compassion there is no room for anger or hate, however when our ego does get ahead of us and we do feel anger we must allow that anger to flow beyond us and not beat ourselves up about the anger that we feel. We must be aware and allow ourselves to move forward. We are all connected and I don&#039;t believe there is a &quot;normal&quot; nor does our belief system separate us from each other.
May we learn from Mr. Bush and may he find love, peace and wellness in his journey.

&lt;em&gt;Mark&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://tobeme.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/exiting-the-rat-race/&#039;&gt;Exiting the Rat Race&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point I got stuck was that you said the Buddhist are different from normal people in that they don&#8217;t have the luxury of anger like &#8220;normal&#8221; people which is to say that somehow Buddhist are not normal. I find this strange, we are all on our journey and yes when we are full of love and compassion there is no room for anger or hate, however when our ego does get ahead of us and we do feel anger we must allow that anger to flow beyond us and not beat ourselves up about the anger that we feel. We must be aware and allow ourselves to move forward. We are all connected and I don&#8217;t believe there is a &#8220;normal&#8221; nor does our belief system separate us from each other.<br />
May we learn from Mr. Bush and may he find love, peace and wellness in his journey.</p>
<p><em>Mark&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://tobeme.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/exiting-the-rat-race/'>Exiting the Rat Race</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: shubhajit</title>
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		<dc:creator>shubhajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anger is a sin, anger is a suffering, anger is the cause of most of the disorders in human like. All the momentary impulses whether anger or sex is the cause of human suffering. again, that is the law. That is the quintessential make-up of ordinary human being that is why whatever he achieve, he will never get the freedom. Buddha was an extraordinary human being, he also underwent through most of the suffering and ultimately got the truth. We can&#039;t deny the fact that after so may 1000 years still there is larger follower of Buddhism and people are taking that principle seriously.

We all ordinary humans are escapist, we say we ought to do errors we it is HUMAN but who else in this universe greater that human? He is the finest creation created by creator and all we do is engage in sense pleasure, hypocrisy and accusing each other. there is no point accusing Bush, Obama, Osama and any godamn x y z. there is only one corner where we can bring improvement that is within ourselves.

Nice blog and thanks for your patience.

&lt;em&gt;shubhajit&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://shubhajit-chakraborty.blogspot.com/2009/01/good-bad-and-ugly.html&#039;&gt;Good, bad and Ugly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anger is a sin, anger is a suffering, anger is the cause of most of the disorders in human like. All the momentary impulses whether anger or sex is the cause of human suffering. again, that is the law. That is the quintessential make-up of ordinary human being that is why whatever he achieve, he will never get the freedom. Buddha was an extraordinary human being, he also underwent through most of the suffering and ultimately got the truth. We can&#8217;t deny the fact that after so may 1000 years still there is larger follower of Buddhism and people are taking that principle seriously.</p>
<p>We all ordinary humans are escapist, we say we ought to do errors we it is HUMAN but who else in this universe greater that human? He is the finest creation created by creator and all we do is engage in sense pleasure, hypocrisy and accusing each other. there is no point accusing Bush, Obama, Osama and any godamn x y z. there is only one corner where we can bring improvement that is within ourselves.</p>
<p>Nice blog and thanks for your patience.</p>
<p><em>shubhajit&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://shubhajit-chakraborty.blogspot.com/2009/01/good-bad-and-ugly.html'>Good, bad and Ugly</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know 12 step buddhist.  

I feel like I WANT to feel compassionate to W, but I don&#039;t feel quite there yet.  I am definitely less angry than a lot of the people I know.  I do feel bad for him, being labeled by some as the worst President ever, but I&#039;m not sure if I feel compassionate towards him.  

Something to work towards in 2009 :).  

Sincerely, 
Bryan

&lt;em&gt;Bryan&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.build-creative-writing-ideas.com/comedy-channel.html&#039;&gt;Jan 23, The Comedy Channel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know 12 step buddhist.  </p>
<p>I feel like I WANT to feel compassionate to W, but I don&#8217;t feel quite there yet.  I am definitely less angry than a lot of the people I know.  I do feel bad for him, being labeled by some as the worst President ever, but I&#8217;m not sure if I feel compassionate towards him.  </p>
<p>Something to work towards in 2009 <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  </p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Bryan</p>
<p><em>Bryan&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.build-creative-writing-ideas.com/comedy-channel.html'>Jan 23, The Comedy Channel</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the Buddhist hostility to anger quite puzzling.  Getting angry means something important is going on.  It can be an important source of insight into ourselves and the world around us - if we are willing to listen.

It is possible to move through and beyond anger but it can be very valuable energy for initiation.  I think there are two confusions, between anger and the attachment to anger, and between anger and violence.  There are ways to express our anger that do not create suffering (it takes work of course).

Bush and Obama have the same Buddhanature and are very different.  They may well have very different impacts on others too (the men, women and children being blown to pieces in Iraq spring to mind).  This seems like a significant difference.

I have no trouble knowing that both Bush and Obama want happiness.  The consequences of their lack of insight has consequences.

&lt;em&gt;Evan&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Wellbeingandhealthnet/~3/519154004/&#039;&gt;I’m Getting Married&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Buddhist hostility to anger quite puzzling.  Getting angry means something important is going on.  It can be an important source of insight into ourselves and the world around us &#8211; if we are willing to listen.</p>
<p>It is possible to move through and beyond anger but it can be very valuable energy for initiation.  I think there are two confusions, between anger and the attachment to anger, and between anger and violence.  There are ways to express our anger that do not create suffering (it takes work of course).</p>
<p>Bush and Obama have the same Buddhanature and are very different.  They may well have very different impacts on others too (the men, women and children being blown to pieces in Iraq spring to mind).  This seems like a significant difference.</p>
<p>I have no trouble knowing that both Bush and Obama want happiness.  The consequences of their lack of insight has consequences.</p>
<p><em>Evan&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Wellbeingandhealthnet/~3/519154004/'>I’m Getting Married</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reminder that Bush has Buddhanature, too. It&#039;s so easy to forget!

&lt;em&gt;Jenn Fields&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.jennfields.com/2009/01/13/people-who-push/&#039;&gt;People who push&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reminder that Bush has Buddhanature, too. It&#8217;s so easy to forget!</p>
<p><em>Jenn Fields&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.jennfields.com/2009/01/13/people-who-push/'>People who push</a></em></p>
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