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		<title>By: Mike Goji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Goji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very odd way to motivate yourself or others to help you lose weight.

Perhaps you should buy a mini exercise bike and bike at home when you watch tv or do things on your computer.

&lt;em&gt;Mike Goji&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://gojimike.com/?p=21&#039;&gt;Had to fix car&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very odd way to motivate yourself or others to help you lose weight.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should buy a mini exercise bike and bike at home when you watch tv or do things on your computer.</p>
<p><em>Mike Goji&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://gojimike.com/?p=21'>Had to fix car</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: fish tank lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>fish tank lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way will I pay you money to lose weight. you should want to lose weight for all threasons you said you wanted money!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way will I pay you money to lose weight. you should want to lose weight for all threasons you said you wanted money!!</p>
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		<title>By: 12 hour yeast infection</title>
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		<dc:creator>12 hour yeast infection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some ways, I envy Patrick - it&#039;s one of the rare occasions where someone is paying someone to BE healthy!!!

I&#039;d love it if someone paid me to workout and eat right!  Maybe I should start a blog listing my dialy problems and have people donate money to help my family and I be healthy....but then it would just make me feel like I was living off people which is not my cup of tea. Okay, this has turned into a much longer reply than it was meant to be :) I shall shut up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some ways, I envy Patrick &#8211; it&#8217;s one of the rare occasions where someone is paying someone to BE healthy!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love it if someone paid me to workout and eat right!  Maybe I should start a blog listing my dialy problems and have people donate money to help my family and I be healthy&#8230;.but then it would just make me feel like I was living off people which is not my cup of tea. Okay, this has turned into a much longer reply than it was meant to be <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I shall shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: MiddleAgeShed</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiddleAgeShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Carnival of Dieting Tips and Healthy Living...&lt;/strong&gt;

Oh dear at the moment I am much in need of any dieting tips that I can find! So here is this weeks carnival to help us with our slimming, healthy living, dieting and even improving our exercise regime. Veteran...</description>
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<p>Oh dear at the moment I am much in need of any dieting tips that I can find! So here is this weeks carnival to help us with our slimming, healthy living, dieting and even improving our exercise regime. Veteran&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh shoot @JanKarlsbjerg, i saw your comment after i deleted &quot;google reklam&quot;.  i should have left it in, so that people have a reference for your poem :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh shoot @JanKarlsbjerg, i saw your comment after i deleted &#8220;google reklam&#8221;.  i should have left it in, so that people have a reference for your poem <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isabella, that&#039;s a SPAM, that &quot;Google Reklam&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Jan Karlsbjerg&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/239832156/&#039;&gt;A small sampling of network security&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isabella, that&#8217;s a SPAM, that &#8220;Google Reklam&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Jan Karlsbjerg&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/239832156/'>A small sampling of network security</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, here&#039;s a follow-up:

I also wouldn&#039;t contribute if Patrick was running one of the (for North America) usual charity schemes: Somebody volunteers to do something for fun and self-promotion and (oddly) this activity is linked up with other people giving money to a third party institution or cause. &quot;Run for the Cure&quot;, &quot;24 hour blogathon for charity X&quot;, etc. etc.

This idea of &quot;doing X for charity&quot; is something I&#039;ve only encountered in North America -- and I hadn&#039;t noticed any distinction between Canada and the US on this topic.

In general I don&#039;t give money to charities.

There, I said it. Let the condemnation rain down over me (those who know me will know that I won&#039;t care).

I&#039;m not wholly uncharitable. I sometimes give stuff away that I don&#039;t need myself. Last winter I gave away a duvet to a local charity through my work place. They were collecting clothes for homeless people in Burnaby, I didn&#039;t need the duvet, and I knew it would be of great use to a street person (we were getting rid of it because it was too warm).

I grew up in a welfare society. A society that worked. People paid a lot of taxes and in return, the state did a good job of taking care of people. It supports the poor, it guarantees that parents can get a spot in a daycare for their kids, it provides free health care and education to its citizens (it&#039;s not a healthy society where only the moneyed can afford to take an education or be healthy).

To me, that&#039;s how a society should work.

The folks from charity X may say that they&#039;re covering the holes. I say that they&#039;re supporting a broken model of a society where large holes are allowed to exist, because &quot;charities will pick up the slack&quot;.

If you have the power to vote in the country where you live (unfortunately I don&#039;t), vote to get the holes plugged.

&lt;em&gt;Jan Karlsbjerg&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/227792749/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the fashion world: The ugly-suit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, here&#8217;s a follow-up:</p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t contribute if Patrick was running one of the (for North America) usual charity schemes: Somebody volunteers to do something for fun and self-promotion and (oddly) this activity is linked up with other people giving money to a third party institution or cause. &#8220;Run for the Cure&#8221;, &#8220;24 hour blogathon for charity X&#8221;, etc. etc.</p>
<p>This idea of &#8220;doing X for charity&#8221; is something I&#8217;ve only encountered in North America &#8212; and I hadn&#8217;t noticed any distinction between Canada and the US on this topic.</p>
<p>In general I don&#8217;t give money to charities.</p>
<p>There, I said it. Let the condemnation rain down over me (those who know me will know that I won&#8217;t care).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not wholly uncharitable. I sometimes give stuff away that I don&#8217;t need myself. Last winter I gave away a duvet to a local charity through my work place. They were collecting clothes for homeless people in Burnaby, I didn&#8217;t need the duvet, and I knew it would be of great use to a street person (we were getting rid of it because it was too warm).</p>
<p>I grew up in a welfare society. A society that worked. People paid a lot of taxes and in return, the state did a good job of taking care of people. It supports the poor, it guarantees that parents can get a spot in a daycare for their kids, it provides free health care and education to its citizens (it&#8217;s not a healthy society where only the moneyed can afford to take an education or be healthy).</p>
<p>To me, that&#8217;s how a society should work.</p>
<p>The folks from charity X may say that they&#8217;re covering the holes. I say that they&#8217;re supporting a broken model of a society where large holes are allowed to exist, because &#8220;charities will pick up the slack&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you have the power to vote in the country where you live (unfortunately I don&#8217;t), vote to get the holes plugged.</p>
<p><em>Jan Karlsbjerg&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/227792749/' rel="nofollow">From the fashion world: The ugly-suit</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short version for now: Of course I&#039;m not going to pay Patrick for losing weight. Why the hell should I?!

&lt;em&gt;Jan Karlsbjerg&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/227792749/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the fashion world: The ugly-suit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short version for now: Of course I&#8217;m not going to pay Patrick for losing weight. Why the hell should I?!</p>
<p><em>Jan Karlsbjerg&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/227792749/' rel="nofollow">From the fashion world: The ugly-suit</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

May I suggest taking a look at www.sethroberts.net

Here is the progress for one person

http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=1258.0

Your mileage may vary.

Works for me too a bit slower. [Email me and I&#039;ll send you a link]

Cheers and best wishes,

Al

&lt;em&gt;Al&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Bokashiman/~3/229402408/cables.php&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ruptures call safety of Internet cables into question - IHT [del.icio.us]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>May I suggest taking a look at <a href="http://www.sethroberts.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.sethroberts.net</a></p>
<p>Here is the progress for one person</p>
<p><a href="http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=1258.0" rel="nofollow">http://boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=1258.0</a></p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.</p>
<p>Works for me too a bit slower. [Email me and I'll send you a link]</p>
<p>Cheers and best wishes,</p>
<p>Al</p>
<p><em>Al&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Bokashiman/~3/229402408/cables.php' rel="nofollow">Ruptures call safety of Internet cables into question &#8211; IHT [del.icio.us]</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: isabella mori</title>
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		<dc:creator>isabella mori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so - what do you think of this feedback, patrick?  it&#039;s funny, i certainly didn&#039;t think there would be all these &quot;american&quot; comments :)

ok, here&#039;s what i think right now:

it&#039;s great, wonderful that you want to lose weight.

i&#039;d like to help you.  

we&#039;re community.  community is built on reciprocity.  i give you something, you give me something, we help each other.  and we also want to have a sense that the person we&#039;re helping is doing all they can to help themselves.

now it looks like you could use help with losing weight.  you’ve probably tried all kinds of things already and they haven’t worked (maybe blog about that?).  

what i don’t get is why you need help getting money.  what does your weight have to do with the money?  (it’s not a rhetorial question, i’m actually interested)

i’m not trying to be confrontational here, just explaining why you haven’t “sold” me on giving you money. 

you HAVE sold me on wanting to help you lose weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so &#8211; what do you think of this feedback, patrick?  it&#8217;s funny, i certainly didn&#8217;t think there would be all these &#8220;american&#8221; comments <img src='http://moritherapy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ok, here&#8217;s what i think right now:</p>
<p>it&#8217;s great, wonderful that you want to lose weight.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d like to help you.  </p>
<p>we&#8217;re community.  community is built on reciprocity.  i give you something, you give me something, we help each other.  and we also want to have a sense that the person we&#8217;re helping is doing all they can to help themselves.</p>
<p>now it looks like you could use help with losing weight.  you’ve probably tried all kinds of things already and they haven’t worked (maybe blog about that?).  </p>
<p>what i don’t get is why you need help getting money.  what does your weight have to do with the money?  (it’s not a rhetorial question, i’m actually interested)</p>
<p>i’m not trying to be confrontational here, just explaining why you haven’t “sold” me on giving you money. </p>
<p>you HAVE sold me on wanting to help you lose weight.</p>
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